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I could probably have qwen 3.8 27b (or ling 3.0 tiny for speed) classify the arena data i have (around 700 battles) which would probably be enough to train a basic classifier. Letting people pick the category might be interesting for collecting training data though.
Hello! Tomorrow, OpenCerebral will be releasing Boris-1.7-D60M-n30M — an experimental architecture. It will be testing a new data mixture, a new tokenizer, and testing Qwen4-like n-gram embeddings.
Following this will be Boris-1.8-D60M-n30M, which will test both the n-gram embeddings AND a new architecture.
Then, Boris-2 will begin training!
Edit: the model is OUT NOW! opencerebral/Boris-1.7-D60M-n30M
Another suggestion - and this is just a suggestion. Allow the user to select an optional category field. Default to no category. I suggest these:
- Safety
- History
- Math
- Science
- Programming
- Judgement
- Reasoning
- Culture
- Summation
- Other
Then in the leader boards, optionally allow to pick a category, defaulting to none which would render a graph including all battles.
I was almost thinking of training a small classifier model to automatically categorize the prompt, but this might be another option
Model Addition Request
Add fromziro/Er-Large-31M, fromziro/Negative-v1.0, and FromZero/Syn-2.6M <3
When BananaMind 2.1 Lite was almost done, we benchmarked it and the results we're worse than BananaMind 2 Mini.
We're going to spend alot more time in research on tiny models and then scaling up our techniques to the actual BananaMind 2.1 models!
We're also announcing these new models:
BananaMind 2.1 Coder: A 149M instruction tuned coder model trained on 75B tokens + 10B tokens of stack-v3-train.
BananaMind 2.1 Pico: A 1M parameter model trained on 22B tokens of data.
We also may release BananaMind 2.1 Large with around 100M parameters depending on how much compute we have.
Please give us a follow!
@Banaxi-Tech
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@DedeProGames
Thanks for all the suggestions! Good luck with your future models!
Haha, I’ve actually been following AI/ML developments for a year or two, and I only got seriously interested in the SLM space a couple months ago. I really only started building models myself about a month ago with MetaDiffusion though, so I’m still learning a ton and figuring things out as I go.
Thanks! I’m still only about a week into developing SLMs, so I still have a lot to learn.
That’s really generous, thank you! I think I’d rather keep the training on my end, though. I like being able to run everything myself, and I’d feel bad putting any pressure on you to spend your hardware and time on it. I really appreciate the offer!
That’s totally okay! I’m still looking for some more datasets to see where I can improve the model. I’m pretty compute and time-limited, so I usually can’t train for more than 2–3 billion tokens at this model size.
Yeah, my main concern with the benchmarks is that Sorbet-v2 is generally trailing other models in the same parameter range. For example, it scores below Supra2 Medium (25M), BananaMind 2 Mini (25M), and Veyra2 Mango (15M) on most of the benchmarks I’ve tested, although it barely passes them on HellaSwag. On ARC Easy, for example, it’s around 15% behind Supra2 Medium.
That said, you might be right that I’m simply hitting the limit of what I can squeeze out of a ~25M-parameter dense Transformer. That’s actually part of why I’m interested in trying more unusual architectures rather than just making the model bigger.
In a recent project, where I attached a TN-gram block to Sorbet-v2-25M, it still stayed the same on benchmarks despite the TN-gram clearly learning (due to the perplexity being lower with the TN-gram attached). When I changed the corpus to favor higher density text (the first paragraphs of Wikipedia articles and synthetic math), the benchmarks either stayed flat or went down.
Does anyone have ideas on what I can do to improve my models? I'd really appreciate any feedback!