WarlaxZ/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NInfer-3090

Qwen3.8-Flash-Next for NInfer on the RTX 3090

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This model card is the version-controlled source for WarlaxZ/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-NInfer-3090.

The repository holds Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (48 layers, 512 routed experts) for the RTX 3090 fork of NInfer, ashalliants/ninfer-3090. It is the ISTA DASLab GSQ-RCO IQ2_XS GGUF rewritten into NInfer's .ninfer container without re-quantizing anything, plus the MTP drafter and the vision tower. It is not a Transformers checkpoint, Safetensors distribution or GGUF file, and it needs this fork's executables. Support is a preview: one request at a time (two lanes opt-in), Windows launcher only. It takes text and images (below).

What the conversion does

Every value is stored exactly as the sources hold it; nothing is rounded again.

• Text weights (from the GSQ-RCO IQ2_XS GGUF): block tensors keep their GGML blocks byte for byte (routed experts' gate and up in IQ2_S, IQ2_XXS or IQ1_M and their down in Q2_0; dense weights in IQ4_XS, IQ3_S, IQ4_NL, Q6_K, Q8_0 and Q2_0, as GSQ-RCO allocated them), BF16 and FP32 keep their words, and the one F16 tensor widens exactly to FP32. A few direct tensors are stored in the form their kernel reads, still without rounding (the q/k norms as the BF16 gamma of the GGUF's 1 + gamma; the converter refuses any value without an exact form).
• Routed experts: each layer's 512 experts become one bank in ggml_expert_record_v1, one record per expert holding its gate, up and down blocks unchanged, so an expert moves between host RAM and the GPU as one byte range. Unpacking the records gives back the GGUF tensors exactly.
• MTP drafter (component mtp, from Strata's mtp-q2_0.gguf): BF16 matrices keep their words; its 512 routed experts keep their Q2_0 blocks.
• Vision tower (component vision, from the GGUF repository's mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-BF16.gguf): Qwen3.5's vision encoder geometry, every value stored as BF16 (the mmproj's F32 tensors hold BF16-exact values).
• N-gram volume: the per-layer embedding (PLE) n-gram table, 320,001,536 IQ4_NL rows, is not in the .ninfer. It is a separate file in Infernix's NINFERNG format (version 2, 4 KiB blocks, each row's GGML blocks unchanged), read a few rows per token. The artifact records the volume's geometry and a 16-byte id, and the server refuses a volume with another id.

An independent checker (tests/convert/qwen4_exp_verify.py, its own mapping rather than the converter's) compares every stored object and every volume row against the three GGUFs. Run on the published files (the SHA-256 values below), it found all 1,356 tensor objects byte-exact: 825 text objects identical, 120 narrowed and 1 widened exactly, the 48 expert banks, the drafter's 28 objects and bank, and the 333 vision objects. All 320,001,536 volume rows equal the GGUF's, and the volume's header equals the geometry and id the artifact records.

Files

File	Bytes	SHA-256	Read
qwen4exp-iq2xs-mtp-vision.ninfer (the model)	32,000,000,000	87c871e6cc1b6392e387104e8dfb159283a8a64247f669fbf33355b19b769ef4	once, at load
qwen4exp-iq2xs-mtp-vision.ninfer.part-0001 (its continuation)	9,012,140,032	1798c63c2f74a05cac71a609701f34368f0ba1e1eeebbf1b7641e83d0dd8d811	once, at load
qwen4exp-iq2xs-mtp-vision.ninfer.ngram (n-gram volume)	29,127,258,112	7623459b2385eef4505891c2ff133b3dd8ad4ecd0ad334c901878f3fa1d1b051	on every prompt
qwen4exp-iq2xs-mtp-vision.ninfer.conversion.json (conversion report)	527,509	73a3525c4582f7459fa3b6684d5b45e15ce6663222908e73a49a278d3ad1c040	not needed to run

The model and its part are one artifact (id a1b2f8c8de7744c1a723735051f7e47c, components text, mtp and vision, 1,362 objects): both must sit in the same folder under these names. artifact-manifest.json lists the same files, the sources and the inventory.

The volume's header: NINFERNG version 2, 320,001,536 rows of 90 bytes (ggml_iq4_nl), 7,111,146 blocks, volume id 1604acb23af5cb05f001e2ce3a8c0f12. It is named <artifact>.ngram because that is where the server looks by default; it can live elsewhere (below).

sha256sum --check SHA256SUMS

Hardware

• GPU: RTX 3090 (24 GB). The dense weights, the KV cache and a cache of the most-used experts (about 11,000-12,500 of the 24,576) share the card.
• RAM: 64 GB. All 33.0 GiB of routed experts are pinned in host RAM at startup, and with images on (--vision, the launcher's default for this file) the 0.84 GiB vision tower too. Before pinning, the server checks that the experts, its other allocations and 2 GiB for Windows fit in the memory available now, and refuses with the shortfall if not; plan on about 40 GiB free (about 2.2 GiB less with NINFER_VISION=off). On the 64 GB test machine, 45-50 GiB was available at each start.
• Disk: about 70 GB: the model (41.0 GB in two files) and the 29.1 GB n-gram volume.
• Put the n-gram volume on NVMe. It is read unbuffered on every prompt; the model is read only at load. With the model on a SATA SSD, moving only the volume to an NVMe drive changed warm prefill from 0.95x / 0.97x / 0.98x Strata's to 1.23x / 1.01x / 1.09x at 4K / 32K / 128K tokens, and the spread between prompts almost disappeared (table below). Decode barely moved (+0.8%).
• OS: Windows. The run.bat qwen38-flash-next launcher is the supported way to serve it.

Measurements

RTX 3090 (24 GB, WDDM, desktop attached), CUDA 12.8, Ryzen 9 5950X, 64 GB DDR4-2133, Windows 11. Strata 0.1.38 running the same IQ2_XS GGUF is the reference; its figures are its own runs on this machine (three per tier). Speeds are warm: the expert cache filled, every request after a process's first. The tables were measured on the text-only and text+MTP conversions of the same GGUF (qwen4exp-iq2xs.ninfer, qwen4exp-iq2xs-mtp.ninfer), which share every text weight and the volume with this artifact. This artifact was then measured against them with images on (four runs, A B B A, the same prompts; ratios this artifact / the other, mean ± sd), with identical greedy tokens throughout:

	1K	8K	32K
Plain decode	0.9970 ± 0.0022	0.9957 ± 0.0026	0.9983 ± 0.0021
MTP decode	1.0008 ± 0.0014	0.9959 ± 0.0042	0.9994 ± 0.0004
Prefill (4K and 32K)	0.9976 ± 0.0025		1.0027 ± 0.0017

So its text speed is the tables' within half a percent, though plain decode is consistently 0.2-0.4% slower.

Quality. Teacher-forced log-probabilities on fixed token ids against Strata 0.1.38 on the same GGUF (tools/flash_next/strata_compare.py; ΔNLL = NInfer − Strata in nats, ± its paired standard error):

Set	Positions	ppl NInfer	ppl Strata	ΔNLL	top-1 agreement	KL mean / p99
Strata's prompts (code, document, chat)	2,557	7.8876	7.8371	+0.0064 ± 0.0027	97.1%	0.0042 / 0.039
Infernix's prompts	2,557	5.0555	5.0518	+0.0007 ± 0.0025	97.4%	0.0041 / 0.038

Strata against itself gives 96.5-99.2% top-1 agreement on the same texts. Two figures are more than two standard errors above zero: the first set overall (+0.0064, 2.4 SE) and its chat text (+0.0158, 3.2 SE); the second set is within 1.2 SE on every text. This compares two runtimes on the same 2-bit weights. What the IQ2_XS quantization itself costs against the BF16 model is DASLab's measurement, on their model card.

Decode, 512 tokens after a prompt of the given length, tok/s, median of 12 requests:

	1K	8K	32K
Plain	81.4	80.2	78.2
MTP, up to 3 drafts per round (the launcher's default)	109.1	111.2	113.0
Strata 0.1.38, plain	71	70	66
Strata 0.1.38, MTP	105	112	107

MTP gives the same tokens as plain greedy decoding (checked on 108 requests). It accepts 2.2-2.6 tokens per round. After a 128K-token prompt, decode is 74.0 tok/s plain and 102.6 with MTP.

Prefill, warm, tok/s, the same plain artifact on a SATA SSD with the n-gram volume on each drive:

Prompt	Volume on SATA	Volume on NVMe	Strata 0.1.38	NVMe / Strata
4K	1,825 [1,334-2,128]	2,345 [2,320-2,393]	1,912	1.23x
32K	2,332 [1,814-2,372]	2,422 [2,406-2,444]	2,397	1.01x
128K	2,135 [1,868-2,345]	2,372 [2,346-2,400]	2,184	1.09x

Medians [min-max], n = 12 / 12 / 6 per drive. At 32K the margin over Strata is inside its spread: call it parity. With MTP on, prefill is 1-4% slower (the drafter computes a cell for every prompt position and its experts take some of the cache).

Startup and the first request. Loading took 93-104 s from a SATA SSD (33.0 GiB pinned, 3.5 GiB on the GPU). The first request in a process with an empty expert cache is much slower: 1,054-1,079 tok/s prefill at 4K from NVMe (635-893 from SATA) against 2,345 warm. The server saves the expert cache beside the model (<model>.expert-state) at shutdown and every ten minutes, so later starts begin warm. With images on, startup takes 2.2-6.9 s longer: it encodes a blank image so that the first real one does not pay that one-time setup.

Images

The vision tower takes images through the Engine and both of the server's routes: OpenAI image_url (data URIs) and Anthropic image blocks. The launcher turns it on for this file (NINFER_VISION=off turns it off). Video input is accepted by the route but was not tested.

• Answers: five real test images (text in an image, counting, positions, a chart, a scene description) were all answered correctly, greedy, through the Engine; six OpenAI requests and one Anthropic request through run.bat qwen38-flash-next were too.
• Tokens: the image token counts follow the Qwen3.5/3.8 processor and chat template, for example 384 tokens for 768 x 512 and 2,280 for 1920 x 1200. They equal Strata's wherever both make the same grid; for 1920 x 1200 llama.cpp caps the image at 1,000 tokens, so that case differs by design.
• Time (warm): encoding takes 0.05-0.10 s for a 384-token image and 0.41-0.46 s for a 2,280-token one; a whole 426-443-token image prompt prefills in 0.7-1.4 s, a 2,301-token one in 1.5-2.3 s.
• Memory: the tower lives in pinned host RAM (0.84 GiB) and uses no VRAM while idle. A request borrows its working memory from the expert cache and returns it; 306-976 MiB of VRAM stayed free during image requests, and an image in a 41,728-token prompt fit with 0 MiB over budget. Images add about 2.2 GiB to the RAM the server reserves at startup.
• MTP with images: the same tokens as plain greedy decoding (185 tokens, 88 rounds checked).

How it differs from Strata. This tower computes in BF16, as NInfer's Qwen3.5 tower does, where llama.cpp (Strata's vision path) keeps activations in F32. Against an FP64 reference of the encoder, the stored-BF16 computation alone is 2-6% off on realistic image sizes, so image embeddings differ from Strata's by about that much. Of five comparable greedy answers, three were identical to Strata's and two diverged after 10 and 17-26 tokens (Strata's own two runs of one of those disagree with each other from token 17, while NInfer's repeat exactly).

The encoder check is loose. The tower was qualified against an independent FP64 implementation of the encoder, reading the stored weights directly. The tolerance first set (normwise 2^-5) failed on 3 of 10 test images and was loosened twice after measuring, to normwise max(2^-4, twice the error of BF16 storage alone). Measured errors were 1.3e-2 to 5.5e-2 on grid sizes the processor produces (2.0e-1 on a tiny 2 x 4 grid it never produces, where BF16 storage alone accounts for 0.17). That bound catches a wrong weight mapping, order, position or projection (deliberately broken versions land at 0.69-1.05), not a drift of a few percent; the answers above and the Strata comparison are the evidence for the rest.

Run it

Build ashalliants/ninfer-3090, then:

scripts\download-model.bat qwen38-flash-next
scripts\run.bat qwen38-flash-next

The downloader fetches the three files above at a pinned revision, checks each one's size and SHA-256 before keeping it, and resumes an interrupted download. It asks where the n-gram volume should go (default: beside the model) and prints the lines to start the server with. If the volume is on another drive, tell the launcher:

set NINFER_NGRAM_VOLUME=D:\ninfer-models\qwen4exp-iq2xs-mtp-vision.ninfer.ngram
scripts\run.bat qwen38-flash-next

or start the server directly with --ngram-volume FILE. The launcher serves one request at a time by default (NINFER_CONCURRENCY=2 runs two lanes) at 32,768 tokens with INT8 KV, MTP and images; NINFER_CONTEXT raises the context (KV beyond 32,768 tokens is borrowed from the expert cache; 128K was measured), NINFER_SPEC=none turns MTP off and NINFER_VISION=off turns images off.

Provenance

Field	Value
Base model	Qwen/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next (Qwen Community License 1.0)
Text weights	ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GSQ-RCO-GGUF @ ed59f92082b1e93c0e96d60a8b11aab089b52f09: IQ2_XS/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GSQ-RCO-IQ2_XS-00001-of-00002.gguf (39,225,954,592 bytes, 92cee27ae5bbadcd732416a0f7a7f0acc092399dbbe8f5a5efa707c2ec0a49d7) and -00002-of-00002.gguf (28,800,138,432 bytes, 316b46f3a2dbd68c900f43136ab9449f9dcc3725dfd8c794847c204bc161e113)
Vision tower	the same repository's mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-BF16.gguf (907,543,008 bytes, b1a82259702816a5330d7bd7607cd9676b11780e79ff7348c21103ff3ce49bd0)
MTP drafter	mtp-q2_0.gguf as installed by Strata 0.1.38 (889,017,216 bytes, a22206a4d74eafbf31063a84610292535fb3b49af9a339963817fd04aed81e4d): the 31 mtp.* tensors of Qwen's BF16 checkpoint, routed experts in Q2_0
Recipe	qwen4_exp_gguf
Converter	python -m tools.convert --model Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GSQ-RCO-IQ2_XS-00001-of-00002.gguf --mtp-gguf mtp-q2_0.gguf --mmproj mmproj-Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-BF16.gguf --recipe qwen4_exp_gguf --device cpu --out qwen4exp-iq2xs-mtp-vision.ninfer --ngram-reuse qwen4exp-iq2xs.ninfer.ngram with the converter of fork commit 06d812b2687022093e95bd8775b9d745893f3098 (the head of the unmerged image-input branch feat/qwen4exp-vision, PRs #270-#272; the conversion ran on that converter before the branch was rebased onto master, and the result is checked byte for byte against the sources above)

The GGUF hashes are those Hugging Face reports for that revision; the local copies that were converted have the same SHA-256. The MTP file is not published by its own repository, so its hash is that of the local copy. Model code adapted from Infernix (Apache-2.0) is credited in the fork's README.

Limits

• MTP missed its target. The goal was 1.2x Strata's MTP decode at 8K (134 tok/s); it reached 111-113 tok/s, level with Strata (1.01x at 8K, 1.05x at 1K and 32K). The cost is in verifying each draft column: every extra column routes more experts.
• One request at a time by default. NINFER_CONCURRENCY=2 serves two lanes; the second request then decodes beside the first (plain, no MTP while both decode) instead of waiting. A burst of eight agent requests finished 6.5% sooner with a 19% lower mean time to first token. INT8 KV only.
• Slow first request after a start with no saved expert state (above).
• Needs the fork's image-input change. At the time of writing, the change that reads this file's vision tower and picks it up in the launcher (PRs #270-#272) and the launcher's NINFER_NGRAM_VOLUME (PR #269) are not yet merged into the fork's master. A build of master alone runs this file text-only and without MTP (the launcher chooses MTP by file name).
• Images: image embeddings differ from Strata's by about 2-6% (BF16 against F32, above), and the encoder's FP64 check is loose. Video and images on more than one lane at once are untested.
• Not verified: absolute speeds of this file through the server (its text speed was measured only as ratios through the Engine, above); machines with less than 64 GB of RAM; Linux; a full download from this repository followed by a run (only partial downloads with resume, and the checks of files already present).

License

The weights are Qwen's. Qwen3.8-Flash-Next is released under the Qwen Community License 1.0, included here as LICENSE, and this conversion is distributed under the same license; its notice must be kept with any copy. The license allows use, modification and redistribution, and asks for a separate license from Qwen for commercial "Model as a Service" or "AI Work Assistant" businesses; read LICENSE for the exact terms.

The conversion's sources declare their licenses differently, so they are listed plainly: the DASLab GGUF repository and its IQ2_XS files declare apache-2.0; its mmproj declares qwen-community-1.0; Strata's mtp-q2_0.gguf carries no license metadata and holds tensors taken from Qwen's checkpoint. A quantization does not change the license of the weights it encodes, so this artifact follows the base model's license.

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